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| title = Comments on Montgomery\&amp;#039;s Paper on Electrodynamics&lt;br /&gt;
| url = [http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_665.pdf Link to paper]&lt;br /&gt;
| author = [[Jorge A Guala-Valverde]]&lt;br /&gt;
| keywords = [[spinning magnet]], [[Lorentz-type electric field]], [[Hall effect]]&lt;br /&gt;
| published = 2004&lt;br /&gt;
| journal = [[Apeiron]]&lt;br /&gt;
| volume = [[11]]&lt;br /&gt;
| number = [[2]]&lt;br /&gt;
| num_pages = 3&lt;br /&gt;
| pages = 327-329&lt;br /&gt;
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Hence the production of an induced current requires a relative motion of the disk and the external circuit, and not as one might expect a relative motion of the disk and the magnet,&amp;quot; H. Montgomery wrote recently in the European Journal of Physics, adding, on page 180: &amp;quot;According to this argument there seems to be no justification for shifting the &amp;quot;seat&amp;quot; of the EMF to the external circuit when one considers Faraday&amp;#039;s second experiment.&amp;quot;   The first sentence above &amp;quot;true but physically &amp;quot;colourless&amp;quot; and the second deserve thorough consideration in light of recent experimental search advanced in Apeiron and widely published subsequently. In fact, since 2001 we have known that a spinning magnet induces a Lorentz-type electric field responsible for a motional Hall effect in the bulk of nearby conductors (Figure 1).&lt;br /&gt;
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